2026-06-07

1814: For Sequence on Linearly-Ordered Set, Limit Superior Is Independent of Leading Finite Elements

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description/proof of that for sequence on linearly-ordered set, limit superior is independent of leading finite elements

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Target Context


  • The reader will have a description and a proof of the proposition that for any sequence on any linearly-ordered set, the limit superior is independent of any leading finite elements.

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1: Structured Description


Here is the rules of Structured Description.

Entities:
\(J\): \(\subseteq \mathbb{N}\), such that \(J \neq \emptyset\)
\(S\): \(\in \{\text{ the linearly-ordered sets }\}\) with any linear ordering, \(\lt\)
\(s\): \(: J \to S\)
\(s'\): \(: J \to S\)
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Statements:
\(\exists N \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } N \lt \vert J \vert (\forall n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } N \lt n (s (J_n) = s' (J_n)))\)
\(\implies\)
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\(\lnot \exists lim sup s \iff \lnot \exists lim sup s'\)
\(\land\)
\((\exists lim sup s \lor \exists lim sup s') \implies lim sup s = lim sup s'\)
)
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2: Proof


Whole Strategy: Step 0: definite \(t_m := Sup (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n\})\) and \(t'_m := Sup (\{s' (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n\})\) and see that \(t_{m'} \le t_m\) and \(t'_{m'} \le t'_m\) for each \(m \lt m'\); Step 1: deal with the case that \(J\) is finite, and suppose otherwise, thereafter; Step 2: suppose that \(lim sup s\) does not exist; Step 3: see that \(lim sup s'\) does not exist; Step 4: see that if \(lim sup s'\) does not exist, \(lim sup s\) does not exist; Step 5: conclude the proposition.

Step 0:

Let us define \(t_m := Sup (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n\})\) and \(t'_m := Sup (\{s' (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n\})\).

Let \(m, m' \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\) be any such that \(m \lt m'\).

Let us see that if \(t_{m'}\) exists, \(t_m\) exists and \(t_{m'} \le t_m\).

Let us suppose that \(t_{m'}\) exists.

\(t_m = Sup (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n \lt m'\} \cup \{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m' \le n\})\).

\(Max (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n \lt m'\})\) exists, by the proposition that for any linearly-ordered set, any nonempty finite subset has the maximum and the minimum.

When \(t_{m'} \le Max (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n \lt m'\})\), \(t_m = Max (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n \lt m'\})\), because for each \(m \le n \lt m'\), \(s (J_n) \le Max (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n \lt m'\})\), and for each \(m' \le n\), \(s (J_n) \le t_{m'} \le Max (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n \lt m'\})\), so, \(Max (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n \lt m'\}) \in Ub (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n\})\), and if there was a \(u \in Ub (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n\})\) such that \(u \lt Max (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n \lt m'\})\), \(u \lt s (J_n)\) for an \(m \le n \lt m'\), a contradiction against that \(u\) was in the set of the upper bounds, so, \(Max (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n \lt m'\}) = Min (Ub (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n\})) = t_m\).

When \(Max (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n \lt m'\}) \lt t_{m'}\), \(t_m = t_{m'}\), because for each \(m \le n \lt m'\), \(s (J_n) \le Max (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n \lt m'\}) \le t_{m'}\), and for each \(m' \le n\), \(s (J_n) \le t_{m'}\), so, \(t_{m'} \in Ub (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n\})\), and if there was a \(u \in Ub (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n\})\) such that \(u \lt t_{m'}\), \(u \in Ub (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m' \le n\})\), a contradiction against that \(t_{m'}\) was the minimum of the set of the upper bounds, so, \(t'_m = Min (Ub (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n\})) = t_m\).

So, \(t_m\) exists anyway.

Let us see that \(t_{m'} \le t_m\).

As has been seen above, when \(t_{m'} \le Max (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n \lt m'\})\), \(t_{m'} \le Max (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n \lt m'\}) = t_m\); when \(Max (\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n \lt m'\}) \lt t_{m'}\), \(t_{m'} = t_m \le t_m\).

So, anyway, \(t_{m'} \le t_m\).

As an aside, if \(t_m\) exists, \(t_{m'}\) may not exist, because for example, for \(S = \mathbb{Q}\), when \(t_{m'}\) does not exist as a sequence asymptotic to \(\sqrt{2}\), \(t_m\) can exist by \(s (J_m) = 2\).

Step 1:

When \(\vert J \vert = n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\), \(lim sup s = s (J_n)\) and \(lim sup s' = s' (J_n)\) exist, and as \(s (J_n) = s' (J_n)\), \(lim sup s = lim sup s'\).

Let us suppose otherwise, hereafter.

Step 2:

Let us suppose that \(lim sup s\) does not exist, which means that \(t_m\) does not exist for an \(m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\) or \(t_m\) exists for each \(m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\) but \(Inf (\{t_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\})\) does not exist.

Step 3:

Let us suppose that \(t_m\) does not exist for an \(m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\).

When \(N \lt m\), \(\{s (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n\} = \{s' (J_n) \vert n \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } m \le n\}\), so, also \(t'_m\) does not exist, so, \(lim sup s'\) does not exist.

Let us suppose that \(m \le N\).

By Step 0, if \(t_{N + 1}\) existed, \(t_m\) would exist, so, \(t_{N + 1}\) does not exist.

But as \(t'_{N + 1} = t_{N + 1}\), \(t'_{N + 1}\) does not exist.

So, \(lim sup s'\) does not exist.

Let us suppose that \(t_m\) exists for each \(m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\) but \(Inf (\{t_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\})\) does not exist.

Let us see that \(Lb (\{t_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\}) = Lb (\{t_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } N + 1 \le m\})\).

For each \(u \in Lb (\{t_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\})\), \(u \le t_m\) for each \(m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\), so, especially for each \(m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\) such that \(N + 1 \le m\), which means that \(u \in Lb (\{t_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } N + 1 \le m\})\).

For each \(u \in Lb (\{t_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } N + 1 \le m\})\), \(u \le t_m\) for each \(m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\) such that \(N + 1 \le m\), but by Step 0, for each \(m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\) such that \(m \le N\), \(u \le t_{N + 1} \le t_m\), so, \(u \le t_m\) for each \(m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\), which means that \(u \in Lb (\{t_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\})\).

So, as \(Inf (\{t_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\}) = Max (Lb (\{t_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\}))\) does not exist, \(Max (Lb (\{t_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } N + 1 \le m\}))\) does not exist.

But as \(\{t_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } N + 1 \le m\} = \{t'_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } N + 1 \le m\}\), \(Inf (\{t'_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\}) = Max (Lb (\{t'_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\})) = Max (Lb (\{t'_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } N + 1 \le m\}))\) does not exist.

So, \(lim sup s'\) does not exist.

Step 4:

Symmetrically, if \(lim sup s'\) does not exist, \(lim sup s\) does not exist.

Step 5:

Let us suppose that \(lim sup s\) exists.

As has been seen in Step 3, \(Lb (\{t_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\}) = Lb (\{t_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } N + 1 \le m\})\).

So, \(lim sup s = Inf (\{t_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\}) = Max (Lb (\{t_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\})) = Max (Lb (\{t_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } N + 1 \le m\})) = Max (Lb (\{t'_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\} \text{ such that } N + 1 \le m\})) = Max (Lb (\{t'_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\})) = Inf (\{t'_m \vert m \in \mathbb{N} \setminus \{0\}\}) = lim sup s'\).

When \(lim sup s'\) exists, symmetrically, \(lim sup s = lim sup s'\).


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